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Рассказываю всем, что в просвещенном штате Массачусеттс нельзя взять назад свою девичью фамилию без нотариально заверенного разрешения мужа.
Думаю, кому бы еще рассказать. Журналистам, феминисткам?

Date: 2011-12-13 01:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kot-begemot.livejournal.com
Забавно... Т.е. "развод и девичья фамилия" в МА за угрозу не канает?

Date: 2011-12-13 05:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dyak.livejournal.com
Ну судьи бывают неправы, но в таких случаях, само собой, разубеждать судью должен человек, который в этих делах разбирается лучше судьи.

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Date: 2011-12-13 01:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moominmamma.livejournal.com
нефига себе!

Date: 2011-12-13 01:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lentochka.livejournal.com
a prosto pomenjat' familiyu, "potomu chto ja tak hochu", nel'zya?

Date: 2011-12-13 01:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yankel.livejournal.com
У вас там и ведьм совсем недавно того... жгли...

Date: 2011-12-13 02:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bella-vista-20.livejournal.com
а в Турции после развода ребенку нельзя присвоить фамилию матери..только по отцу..

Date: 2011-12-14 06:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bella-vista-20.livejournal.com
ну, можно двойную..

Date: 2011-12-13 02:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uropb-cbl.livejournal.com
А если муж подумал и решил взять фамилию жены? А потом передумает, вдруг, опять?

Date: 2011-12-13 03:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uropb-cbl.livejournal.com
Верёвкина - к ответу!

Date: 2011-12-13 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ctapnep.livejournal.com
я двоих таких знаю. Одного из них и ты знаешь, наверное.

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Date: 2011-12-13 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cema.livejournal.com
Я знаю одного, который взял. Нет, двоих.
Edited Date: 2011-12-13 08:24 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-12-13 04:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alikr.livejournal.com
Не фига себе.
У вас есть ответ от секретаря суда? Может вывесите его здесь?

Date: 2011-12-13 07:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alikr.livejournal.com
Это наверное она намекала что вам хорошо бы поделиться денежкой с лоером.
Edited Date: 2011-12-13 07:26 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-12-13 05:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dyak.livejournal.com
AFAIK, такого специфического требования нет.

Исчерпывающая информация тут:
http://www.masslegalservices.org/system/files/Chapter+15+Final.pdf

Также см. ссылки на это странице:
http://www.lawlib.state.ma.us/subject/about/name.html

Особенно:
MGL c.210, s.12 Petitions for Change of Name
MGL c.210, s.13 Notice and Certificate; Decree; Entry; Conditions Precedent
MGL c.210, s.14 Annual Return of Changes

И более фундаментально:

Merolevitz, Petitioner, 320 Mass. 448 (1946). "It is well settled that at common law a person may change his name at will, without resort to legal proceedings, by merely adopting another name, provided that this is done for an honest purpose."

Date: 2011-12-13 05:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dyak.livejournal.com
На всякий случай, там в приведенной форме на стр 424 есть место для подписи супруга, но это по всем признакам на тот случай, если супруг тоже фамилию меняет (или если речь идет об изменении имени ребенка).

Date: 2011-12-13 05:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dyak.livejournal.com
4. Changing your name:

A name can be changed at any time for any reason that is not dishonest or fraudulent. You do not have to go to court to do this. However if you do not go to court to officially have your name changed, you cannot obtain official documents (such as a passport or driver’s license) in that name. To change your name officially, you must do the following.

File the following with the Probate & Family Court of the county in which you live:
a. A petition for change of name (available at the court);
b. The $165 filing fee, subject to change. If you are low income, the fee may be waived. Check with court personnel to see if you qualify under the income guidelines for a fee waiver;
c. A certified copy of your birth certificate or any other prior judgment or record amending your name. Foreign birth certificates must be properly translated to English.
IMPORTANT NOTE: When the petition for Change of Name is filed, the Court will request a copy of your criminal record from the Commissioner of Probation.


Give public notice that you are petitioning to change your name. This is done by publishing a notice in the local newspaper. You will get an order from the court stating that the information must be published and it will tell you which newspaper you must send the notice to. You should keep the original in a safe place. Fill in any blank spaces on the notice and send a copy to the newspaper asking them to publish it. There will be a fee for this service which varies. If your fees were waived by the court, send a copy of your approved Affidavit of Indigency along with the form to the newspaper explaining that the fee will be paid by the Commonwealth. Anyone who objects to your name change may do so by filing an appearance at the Probate Court.
NOTE: For an adult, the requirement for providing public notice of the Name Change Petition can be waived for “good cause”. You must file a “Motion to Waive Publication Requirement” along with your explanation of why it should be waived. You may also wish to file a “motion to impound” so that the information in your file is kept confidential by the court.

Provide the court with proof that the notice was published. The newspaper will send you a copy of what was printed. If not, you can cut out the notice on the day that it was published. Take the publication and the original court notice to the Probate & Family Court for filing.
You will receive a notice of the date you must appear in Probate and Family Court. A judge may ask you to explain why you are changing your name. Name changes are generally allowed unless “inconsistent with public interests.” If your request is granted, the Court will issue a certificate of the new name.
NOTE: Getting Divorced -- If you are filing for a divorce or are involved in a divorce case, there is a box on the divorce complaint which you can check that allows you to resume your maiden name or a former married name without going through the name change procedure. You cannot obtain a new name in this way, only a former name. Also, you cannot change your child’s name through this procedure. For more information on how to proceed in a divorce case, please see: Information About How to File Papers in the Essex Probate and Family Court

http://www.masslegalservices.org/content/name-changes-naming-your-children-recording-your-childs-name-changing-your-childs-name

Date: 2011-12-14 01:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] san-diegan.livejournal.com
Потому что есть законы и есть правоприменение.

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Date: 2011-12-16 07:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dmip
Это ты во Франции жить не пробовала:) Во-первых, тут у замужней женщины - независимо от того, брала она фамилию мужа или нет - всегда получается практически двойная фамилия: во всех сколько-нибудь официальных документах требуется и девичья, и фамилия мужа. Катька вон фамилию не меняла, а все равно всюду пишется Mme Prokofyev.

А во-вторых, как рассказывают, исключительно трудно (практически нэвозможно) поменять имя - которое first name/prénom. Поэтому особо заботливые французские родители при рождении ребенка записывают ему несколько, чтобы он потом смог выбрать, какое ему больше нравится. А французское правительство имело по этому поводу проблемы с Европейским судом по правам человека по жалобам транссексуалов - им несмотря на полную перемену пола никак было не переименоваться, скажем, из Жана в Мари...

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